tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post4834482963044350014..comments2024-01-07T06:31:21.493-07:00Comments on Walking Prescott: Meetings at the SmokiGranny Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-59056954694210165062008-02-05T12:17:00.000-07:002008-02-05T12:17:00.000-07:00A lovely thought, Lucy!A lovely thought, Lucy!Granny Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-88188379795076628142008-02-05T10:41:00.000-07:002008-02-05T10:41:00.000-07:00I wonder if a group will one day be set up to pres...I wonder if a group will one day be set up to preserve the ancestral and traditions of mid-twentieth century groups like the Smoki, which will inturn have become vanished culture!Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-11656720846863453752008-01-31T16:03:00.000-07:002008-01-31T16:03:00.000-07:00steve -- that has a familiar ring to it! I think t...steve -- that has a familiar ring to it! I think the idea is stupid, but obviously I comment out of self-interest! (Just like the museums in question...)Granny Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-42535981092825274792008-01-31T12:19:00.000-07:002008-01-31T12:19:00.000-07:00Usually they want to sell their own photos or book...Usually they want to sell their own photos or books when they don't allow a camera to be used. At least places here in Germany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-68239626679499811272008-01-30T20:01:00.000-07:002008-01-30T20:01:00.000-07:00SnS -- that was what the nice volunteer lady said....SnS -- that was what the nice volunteer lady said. I should have challenged her by saying that I planned to use existing light...Granny Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-76760708512855411592008-01-30T14:44:00.000-07:002008-01-30T14:44:00.000-07:00But you did get some great shots, here. Is it sti...But you did get some great shots, here. <BR/><BR/>Is it still the idea that flash may damage something, in a museum? Suppose so.<BR/><BR/>Mari-Nancismilnsighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17207943167502354530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-8565671371842336392008-01-30T11:49:00.000-07:002008-01-30T11:49:00.000-07:00tombo -- I have heard, via various grapevines, tha...tombo -- I have heard, via various grapevines, that the Smoki actually did keep a couple of dances alive that had been lost. Don't know how true this is...<BR/><BR/>brain -- A piece of me suspects that the Smoki were a very local version of the many old lodge groups (Elks, IOOF, etc.) that were losing vigor during the same time frame. <BR/><BR/>AD -- The white-man group existed for over 60 years before the big protest, though I understand that there were quieter protestations over the years. BTW, a rather controversial documentary was made about the Smoki. I do think it's all too easy for us modern thinkers to side entirely with the Hopi and forget that a long local tradition that helped anchor a small community was uprooted in the process. A long-time establishment was beset on the one side by PC-think and on the other by growth, development and big box retailer competition. The center did not hold.Granny Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-39985039089865697822008-01-30T11:27:00.000-07:002008-01-30T11:27:00.000-07:00So, let me get this straight. A bunch of 'white' f...So, let me get this straight. A bunch of 'white' folks formed a group to preserve 'Indian' stuff, the Hopi's come along and put an end to this group and their ways.(?) Sounds like poetic retribution to me. Maybe justice, too, 'cause they deserve to own their own culture, but it sounds like they could have worked with the Smoki, might have helped the Hopi out as well.<BR/>Are the Hopi's keeping it alive like the Smoki's did?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-40844589511197069912008-01-30T10:39:00.000-07:002008-01-30T10:39:00.000-07:00Another nteresting post, GJ. I always thought the...Another nteresting post, GJ. I always thought the Smoki people demonstrated a good deal of grace in letting go of their ceremonies when the right time had come. <BR/>They didn't disagree with the Hopi's rights to their own ceremonies, or try claim any grandfathered rights of their own.. They just quit.Linda G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10363689622473649154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20402991.post-35334496082617777482008-01-30T08:32:00.000-07:002008-01-30T08:32:00.000-07:00The Smoki folks sure seem to get some bad rap in m...The Smoki folks sure seem to get some bad rap in my opinion. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that all the white guys were poking fun at the Indian culture, but after talking to a few of them, they really were very interested in the ceremonies, and wanted to keep them alive (as you said).<BR/><BR/>Good post granny.TomboCheckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11076931481931258301noreply@blogger.com